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Devil has taken charge of Uganda - Jonah Lwanga

Moses Talemwa spoke to Metropolitan Archbishop of the Orthodox Church, Jonah Lwanga

How has been the year 2008?
We Ugandans are irrational people. And I don’t know if people understand the meaning of the word. But to explain it a bit, we don’t care anymore. We have not been taught, even in our schools, to do our duties diligently. Instead, we find ourselves unable to do what we are supposed to do. Unless something is done the situation will get worse in 2009.

Our political life?
Our political life in Uganda is just a game and there is nothing essential that is going on in the country. All this year, what good has happened? There is no strategic plan to improve the welfare or development of our people, so next year is likely to be worse. I have served as a bishop in Kenya for 10 years, in Tanzania for five years and now in Uganda for 11years. But the situation in Uganda is worse than in the other two countries.

Education and social welfare?
In the 1960s we were ahead of everyone. Look at the leaders in Kenya, they all studied here in Uganda, including President Mwai Kibaki. But now we are behind. I hear we have nearly 50 universities; I usually invite the recent graduates here and they fail miserably. I think our schools and universities are just making money. They are not adding any value to the young people.

What about the economy?
At the beginning of the year we had a crisis which was caused by foreign matters. We were unprepared for that crisis. Even now we are still unprepared for anything similar that might happen. There has been no research into how to resolve the matter. I wish the leaders would take note and learn.
Corruption has become much worse. This is because our people have lost faith in the leadership. Our leadership is upside down in it’s thinking with a devilish approach to issues. The devil is in opposition to logos [Jesus]; let them be servants of logos.

Challenges and achievements for 2008?
There was nothing good in 2008, just problems everywhere. Can you name anything good?  I don’t see anything. Look at our education sector, it is failing. Look at our health sector; it is in a mess, medical personnel can’t even afford gloves. Even if you fall sick and go to hospital, you might die. There is no hope. What have you seen that is good? I don’t see anything that is good. Look at the economy? We are lucky foreigners have come into our economy otherwise we would be finished.

What do you say about reports of child sacrifice?
This is the biggest sign that the Church is in transition; we have lost ground to the devil. That is why people feel free to behave the way they want. These people think that they are free but we can never be free of logos. We believe in logos or leaders being in charge. He should be at the centre of life. Everybody must learn to live like a servant, listening to logos. But instead things are upside down in Uganda. The people don’t respect their leaders. There is no hope, unless we start following logos; who is Jesus. And this Christmas I hope that more people will follow Christ, who is the word that became human in our lives. All people should go back to the rule of Christ then things can become organised again.

mtalemwa@observer.ug

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